Ontario Greenbelt scandal: Residents react after housing minister resigns

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10 ай бұрын

Ontario Premier Doug Ford shook up his cabinet on Monday after the resignation of Steve Clark as housing minister. Clark’s departure was triggered by weeks of controversy surrounding the Greenbelt land swap.
MPP Paul Calandra will take over Clark’s old portfolio and residents from Calandra’s riding of Markham-Stouffville, which resides in the Greenbelt, have been reacting to the news.
“100 per cent,” reacted one resident when asked if the land swaps should be rolled back, adding that “people should be put in jail.”
Global’s Sean O’Shea has more.
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@Arational
@Arational 10 ай бұрын
It's a lot more than resignations that are required here. The RCMP needs to step in and follow the money.
@gigi6374
@gigi6374 10 ай бұрын
And I suppose you think this SAME way when it comes to all the ethics violations Trudeau and his federal Liberals have been engaging in?
@landon1626
@landon1626 10 ай бұрын
Yep.... start by getting into doug fords personal phone!!!!
@JEdwarrd
@JEdwarrd 10 ай бұрын
@@landon1626 The fact that they used personal accounts/devices says it all.... denying access b/c they're personal accounts/devices perfectly covers their lies. So it's time to get police to forensically look into the devices. We do this for murderers, why not for financial crime!?
@mathias8627
@mathias8627 10 ай бұрын
The police are politicians' dogs, the politcians are their masters and hold their leash
@jontipping
@jontipping 10 ай бұрын
Ya once they investigate at the federal level
@mmr7484
@mmr7484 10 ай бұрын
Lets put these developers in jail too, along with Doug Ford.
@001sander2
@001sander2 10 ай бұрын
Corruption should land you in prison, not a cabinet shuffle 😵‍💫
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
What corruption exactly?
@001sander2
@001sander2 Ай бұрын
@@No_name860 did you watch the report?
@user-sz8dh3tf5c
@user-sz8dh3tf5c 10 ай бұрын
LOCK FORD UP!!! LOCK FORD UP!!!
@shanewilson8728
@shanewilson8728 10 ай бұрын
I believe that we should give Doug Ford another chance .
@damontsekos9406
@damontsekos9406 10 ай бұрын
​@@shanewilson8728....I wonder if you would've said the same thing if that was Trudeau instead?...Please take your hypocrisy elsewhere!
@user-sz8dh3tf5c
@user-sz8dh3tf5c 10 ай бұрын
@@shanewilson8728 HAHAHAHA!! That's funny!!
@shanewilson8728
@shanewilson8728 10 ай бұрын
@damontsekos9406 This is Doug Ford first scandal in five years , Trudeau has been in far more scandals and more serious than this one.
@Jones9guitars
@Jones9guitars 10 ай бұрын
I'm all for reversing this decision and putting ALL of this land back in the greenbelt. Throwing the housing minister under the bus isn't enough.
@JEdwarrd
@JEdwarrd 10 ай бұрын
Dougie needs to RESIGN. OR WE JUST FIRE HIM!
@chrishogan8125
@chrishogan8125 10 ай бұрын
@@ianarchibald1423 False equivalency! DO NOT forget what the Conservatives did to Patrick Brown, who would have been our Premier, in order to get Doug Ford in.....!? We can debate how bad the Liberals are\were, but this is FAR beyond anything that the Liberals have done, and we're not even talking about the scam that Ford is pulling with our healthcare...!?
@cerealkilla4eva
@cerealkilla4eva 10 ай бұрын
@@ianarchibald1423oh yeah totally excuse rank corruption because “DA LIBRULS” 🤡
@JEdwarrd
@JEdwarrd 10 ай бұрын
@@ianarchibald1423 I thought Cons stood for "law & order", if it's so difficult to replace him-maybe it's a Conservative ethics problem & the "law & order" talking point is all propaganda. Cons sure love to dish the criticism, but crack when it's directed at them.
@jeffspicolli593
@jeffspicolli593 10 ай бұрын
@@ianarchibald1423 The Liberal Lite Ford needs to resign and be replaced by a real Conservative Premier with integrity.
@toronto4640
@toronto4640 10 ай бұрын
Take back the Greenbelt land. Doug Ford needs to resign too.
@mrmelmba
@mrmelmba 10 ай бұрын
Building _upwards_ while halting expansion _outwards_ causes home prices and rents to skyrocket, shunting the lifetime earnings of residents squarely into the pockets of the chosen few. Those most affected cheer each time another tract of land is "protected" tightening the snare on their own demise. A quarter million homeless in Canada with 1000 deaths each month. A major issue in this country is the vast expanse between cities, but no land may be spared for housing. Organized protest in an effort to save a grove of trees meets each attempted use of land, yet 895,000,000 acres of forest extend all the way from the West Coast to the East Coast. This artificially created land shortage serves the purpose of financial institutions, but costs consumers from five to above twenty times the normal price of a home. For each $100,000 of market price, if land is $20,000 and the building is $80,000 lenders will not advance funds beyond the value of the indestructible portion, which is the land, itself. A deliberately restricted supply caused prices to skyrocket with the cost of the building and the cost of land exchanging places in the equation. Now, for each $100,000 spent on a home the building accounts for $20,000 of the purchase price and land makes up the remainder, which is $80,000. Banks lend an amount that matches the indestructible portion of the acquisition, which is land. In an ironical twist this arrangement enables buyers to finance their purchase by paying several times the normal cost of a home. Canada produces cereal crops and livestock that are its staples, which are grown some distance from cities. We have highways and railways to haul in these products. This country also produces some fruit and vegetables during a relatively short growing season. The reality is that 95% of the food that we consume arrives from or through the USA. Major retailers are not going to snub reliable suppliers in order to acquire local produce for a few weeks each year. That has not kept land from being declared "agricultural" in an effort to prevent its use for housing and that has inspired movements to place a halt on the use of _all_ land. In order to save land for agriculture, forest land should be made available on which to construct homes. Legislation and regulations have severely restricted the home building and home improvement industries, the two industries for which we are admirably suited with our abundance of land, lumber, stone, minerals and other material. We have skyrocketing property prices preventing people from becoming established and a growing gulf between property owners and the remainder that cannot be bridged with any amount of effort. Housing has been turned into an unregulated financial paper market, with public officials that personally benefit at the expense of citizens, setting conditions to constrain supply that results in monopoly prices, with rent at maximum levels and home ownership beyond reach. *Footnotes:* ¹ A result of this cunning _sleight of hand_ is that purchasers make a down payment of $200,000 and finance the remaining $800,000 for a home that should only cost $200,000 to begin with if it were not for a deliberately restricted supply that caused prices to escalate to absurd levels. ² Cities were built on fertile flood plains at the confluence of rivers. Halting use of land beyond these areas that were developed a century earlier does nothing to enhance agricultural production, while astronomical price levels make this land unfeasible for growing crops. ³ Average price of a home in Vancouver in 1969 was $23,939. In Winnipeg $13,588. That equals $23,939/$7284 = 3.3 years salary in Vancouver of a new degree holder or $13,588/$7284 = 1.9 years salary in Winnipeg. ¹³ Civic governments reap a bonanza from inflated property assessments.
@worstknightmayor4439
@worstknightmayor4439 10 ай бұрын
Irrelevant! Build up not out . Land and wildlife is more important than population rise.
@asifqamr
@asifqamr 10 ай бұрын
Not resign enough but need to be punished under criminal laws
@therainforest4314
@therainforest4314 10 ай бұрын
Doug Ford belongs in prison for life!!!
@jmitchell3127
@jmitchell3127 10 ай бұрын
There is enough land without using Greenbelt land. Stop drinking the Kool-aid.
@josephsmith594
@josephsmith594 10 ай бұрын
I resign. I’ll take my kickbacks and be on my way. Don’t worry Dougie, your account in the Caymans will be well taken care of. Bye everybody LOL.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
You’re not very bright, are you?
@johns.greene2592
@johns.greene2592 10 ай бұрын
Jail time for someone.
@georgevprochazka5316
@georgevprochazka5316 10 ай бұрын
Honest politicians? GOOD LUCK!
@rickboer7715
@rickboer7715 10 ай бұрын
We need to preserve farm land at ALL costs farm land lost of food production is GONE FOREVER>
@06rtm
@06rtm 10 ай бұрын
And what about the marshes and wetlands?
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Why? Bill Gates and CCP are buying up the land to make sure you can eat lab grown meat. Wake the hell up people. That’s why they’re always going after the real farmers and making things harder for them at every turn. Notice how most of our food, is not grown here? They want to buy their land up cheap. WAKE UP.
@8randomprettysecret8
@8randomprettysecret8 10 ай бұрын
Public inquiry is necessary. The politicians must be accountable to society
@damontsekos9406
@damontsekos9406 10 ай бұрын
​@@ianarchibald1423....Where were you during the McGuinty/Wynne years when we still had our Healthcare, our Long Term Care, our Science Research, our Education Programs and Services, our Rent Control, and Yes!...Our Greenbelt? BTW...Speaking of McGuinty, I hope last February 19th. you enjoyed your Family Day long weekend and remembering who was the one who gave it to you!
@chrishogan8125
@chrishogan8125 10 ай бұрын
@@damontsekos9406 EXACLTY!!! Wynne\McGuinty weren't even close to this corrupt!
@damontsekos9406
@damontsekos9406 10 ай бұрын
@@ianarchibald1423 ....I know, it started out Federally courtesy of Stephen Harper's budget cuts to it, and in Ontario it started out courtesy of Mike Harris's budget cuts to it and when Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne tried to fix it Doug Ford came along and picked up where Mike Harris left off!...Also don't forget that Trudeau is running a Minority Government and every time he's trying to fix something, he has Poilievre and his closet Con, pseudo-Socialist, buddy Jagmeet Singh ganging up on him!
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Yes, we need to know why the put greenbelts on land where people could be living instead of living in tents.
@pearllemdal5988
@pearllemdal5988 10 ай бұрын
All this is greed
@canadianmonte
@canadianmonte 10 ай бұрын
This better not have one of those back end cancellation prizes of a billion dollars of our tax payer money.
@GreenWays2000
@GreenWays2000 10 ай бұрын
Like the Liberal 2 gas plant cancellation that cost us 1b. Or that we're on the hook to subsidize energy after Liberals sold off hydroone.
@Arational
@Arational 10 ай бұрын
If you think that the Federal Conservatives will act any different than this when they are elected, you're dreaming and you don't remember what they did the last time they had the PM's office.
@skelitonking117
@skelitonking117 10 ай бұрын
lmfao what?! You mean the decade of corruption that the Harper government blatantly was?! My man, you understand that that specific period of time for the conservative party, is taught as a period of fascist control in other countries right?!@@ianarchibald1423 Harper was a "populist" just about as much as Trump is lmfao You act as if the 2008 recession, probably one of the hardest times for Canadiens since the depression, was not a direct result of his and his parties policies and actions.
@dAeveFellows
@dAeveFellows 10 ай бұрын
@@ianarchibald1423Harper gutted Canada and now you blame the liberals just like youve been told to.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
@@dAeveFellows🤣🤣🤣 your delulu
@asifqamr
@asifqamr 10 ай бұрын
I knew the day 1 that the Builders have surrounded Doug Ford and has taken the advantage after knitting web. I will be more happy when they stand in the court of law and get exemplary punishment. It is very important to clean our dirty politics. I am happy for green land. Their must be all agreed formulae for un capping green belt. I pray for the day. I feel that it will come. We have to keep raising our voice. All credit goes to Investigative journalist Fatima who dig out this scandals Day Ford was adamant to accept any wrong doing and criticise Auditor GENERAL for handling the issue. Now we demand a judicial inquiry who can suggest the punishment for each and every person Govt or private involved.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Builders don’t need us, we need the,. People are living in tents ffs. I know your probably don’t care, I’m sure you bought when housing was affordable, but do you have children or grandchildren to care about? Or are you one of those liberal/socialists voters that doesn’t procreate?
@johnnordby1331
@johnnordby1331 10 ай бұрын
ROLL IT BACK ! Investigate the situation from start to finish and hold politicians LEGALLY accountable. This is Federal negative influence making this situation acceptable. We need scrutiny in Ottawa...Toronto and B C governments for a start and there must be accountability or we wind up like the USA is right now for PARDONING the "I am not a crook " president.
@georgevenckus
@georgevenckus 10 ай бұрын
Can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen, wonder how much he’s walking away with
@ryankadharnauth3209
@ryankadharnauth3209 10 ай бұрын
RCMP, we are calling on you, will you answer the call and investigate this slimy mess for your fellow Canadians?
@mgil3105
@mgil3105 10 ай бұрын
Why would they. They have been GIVEN the evidence on the wef and nothing. Why now ? The army should be included in that to.
@cindycreateforlife
@cindycreateforlife 10 ай бұрын
The housing minister needs to be someone who values farmers, climate mitigation, watersheds and boundaries! Most of us are truly shocked by Steve Clarke’s mishandling of this, one of the best has fallen but more investigation needs to follow, the trail didn’t start and end with Steve Clarke!
@lastChang
@lastChang 10 ай бұрын
Suddenly, Ontario looks like a province of China 🇨🇳. At least corruption is exactly the same.
@06rtm
@06rtm 10 ай бұрын
Rezoning is like China?
@MS-ii1sv
@MS-ii1sv 10 ай бұрын
Same amount of Chinese people too.
@READComment1
@READComment1 10 ай бұрын
Corruption is a major issue in many OECD countries, so your comment appears driven by personal bias vs single standard facts
@vivienmartin9661
@vivienmartin9661 10 ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks that building homes on large lots which won't be completed for 2 or 3 years on greenbelt land will ease the housing crisis is sadly mistaken. The real problem is wages which, allowing for inflation, are about the same as wages in the early 1970s. The cost of housing otoh has escalated exponentially since the early 1970s while wages have lagged far behind. Fix wages and the problem will solve itself. But business does not want to fix the wage issue as that will cut into their profits and business owners and the stock markets will not be happy and that is all that the gov't and Bay street are concerned with. Increasing wages does NOT cause inflation. Businesses inflating the price of goods and services, as has been demonstrated over the past 3 years, is what causes inflation. Just look at bank profits.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Brought to you by liberals/NDP who do whatever they can to kill industry and our economy. Some people never learn.
@MrBiPauler
@MrBiPauler 10 ай бұрын
Good things go into Ford's pockets in Ontario!
@grace-ellenzacker1826
@grace-ellenzacker1826 10 ай бұрын
Ford needs to go
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
No, he does not.
@grace-ellenzacker1826
@grace-ellenzacker1826 Ай бұрын
@@No_name860 yes he does.
@yd7431
@yd7431 10 ай бұрын
These swamp lands in the green belt act as flood drains. As we have seen this year's severe weather, there is no doubt more rains will be pouring on us in the coming years. If houses are built on these lands, these houses will be in extreme likelihood of getting flooded. Furthermore, the surrounding areas will also experience flooding as these swamp lands are being built with houses, losing their flood draining functions. So in the end, the entire Pickering area will experience more flood damages, hence higher insurance. Why is Doug Ford so short sighted? Doug Ford, step down.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Depends where. There is greenbelt land North of Brampton that does not, and it should be expanded so people can live in houses instead of tents. I can’t speak on the area you’re talking about, but I can tell you around where I live there are no flood planes and there’s still a green belt on it. They need to look at this zoning again and figure out what parts actually NEED to be in a greenbelt and which do not. I guarantee a lot of it does not need to be and is only creating an artificial land scarcity which pushes up the prices of housing.
@LizaB486
@LizaB486 10 ай бұрын
We sure as hell don't need a public inquiry in the greenbelt land situation. We either build houses there or we don't. Move on.
@fredm4197
@fredm4197 10 ай бұрын
Ford looks like a super villain in a gay movie.
@johnransom1146
@johnransom1146 10 ай бұрын
Pigs at the trough
@plcanadahk1
@plcanadahk1 10 ай бұрын
This cannot be not illegal
@Astr0b0y8
@Astr0b0y8 10 ай бұрын
Oh good. A cabinet shuffle. Now everything is fine 🤣
@cherihoward2323
@cherihoward2323 10 ай бұрын
It will never be okay until the conservatives are GONE
@theregulartourist2333
@theregulartourist2333 10 ай бұрын
+++ Its not just the Greenbelt, lands across the entire Canada has been abused by corrupted politicians. Look at Ottawa, ON Barrhaven alone, all houses there were built only a few years ago and they cost at least CAD600k! Should the government be negotiating with developers to build more affordable houses for Canaduans? And yes if you look closer, almost everyone who lives there are rich foreigners or new migrats!!! +++
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
That’s not how a free and fair country is supposed to work. Do you want more government housing? Grow up.
@cristinaordeig7
@cristinaordeig7 10 ай бұрын
A must for PREMIER FORD IS TO RETURN THE LAND TAKEN BY CORRUPTION OF THE PREMIER , HIS MINISTER CLARK AND THE PARTICIPANTS INCLUDING. THE DEVELOPERS NAMES, OF THE GREENBELT LAND. The RCMP SHOULD MAKE CHARGES TO THESE PEOPLE.
@VortekStarling
@VortekStarling 10 ай бұрын
What's all this stuff about building houses when there are numerous empty office buildings in Toronto that could be converted to apartments. Is it even reasonable to think that every Canadian could have a separate house and yard? I doubt it. If it's in the suburbs then they would also have to do a lot of driving, is that a good thing? It's all about making huge profits, it's blatant.
@oldpossum57
@oldpossum57 10 ай бұрын
Office towers have all services Water, plumbing, in the centre core of building. Condos don’t get built same way.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
You cannot just take office space that people own to make more housing. Wth is wrong with you?
@VortekStarling
@VortekStarling Ай бұрын
@@No_name860 I didn't say anything about taking the office buildings from the owners. I meant them voluntarily converting the, instead of letting them sit there vacant as offices. I do think gold courses should be expropriated though. Look at Toronto in Google Earth and you'll see how much land is being wasted on the stupidity of golf.
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 10 ай бұрын
I know Ontario for Ford and the nedia is only Toronto and the GTA, but while this is the focus, here in Kitchenere Waterloo the Mennonite farmland, greenspace that divided the city from their farmlands have vanished and entire new subdivisions have sprung up to accomodate the Indian immigration to the area. I drove to the area to enjoy the countryside and was shocked to end up in monster home subdivisions. Yet we dont see this kind of subdivision springing up down along the 401 a non green area, and more appropriate. We will soon be paved from kitchener to Pickering. Go Ford. Why not direct growth industries immigrants to the other parts of our vast province? We let logging, mining, sawmills go, and towns and cities of the north are in need of people and industries. Come on Ford look outside the GTA.
@TB-qv1vn
@TB-qv1vn 10 ай бұрын
Reverse his decision and do not build any more houses!!
@jacksparrow5281
@jacksparrow5281 9 ай бұрын
Check Claremont on the moraine where 70 homes are going to go in.
@sp1pilot
@sp1pilot 10 ай бұрын
I guess there is Ministerial accountability... when you are a conservative.
@mimsicle1
@mimsicle1 9 ай бұрын
Return the land.
@maple-leafs13
@maple-leafs13 10 ай бұрын
Remove the zoning laws and allow for medium rise building in surburbs. Not just single family homes.
@phillydisco
@phillydisco 9 ай бұрын
Love how the government can talk about food insecurity (along with the media) and then allow farmland be bought up by developers. And if they didn't keep opening the floodgates to refugees (refugees created by our meddling in foreign affairs), we wouldn't have the housing shortage issue. That and of course, the properties being bought using laundered money by overseas criminals.
@scottmiller8617
@scottmiller8617 10 ай бұрын
He will be the sacrificial lamb to try and appease the public, but the deals will probably still go ahead for those developers with ties to the Ford government. If Trudeau did this the trackers would start another convoy 😅
@kushman3184
@kushman3184 10 ай бұрын
Ontario needs housing. It didn’t matter what was discovered the environmental groups have been opposed regardless. It’s easy for those living in homes to judge those trying to build something for people with nothing. Municipalities or environmental organizations like this persons on air are exactly what they advertise. Gummy up the works so nothing is ever built. You don’t want Greenbelt land then fine everyone commenting move to a high rise in Toronto and free up your home for someone else. Then move your family there as well we’re apparently taxes are so low and everything is cheap according to one guy on tv who is to his credit is openly saying he is against green belt being used for houses. Not just now but that pretending building homes in Ontario quickly and affordably and environmentally friendly all go hand in hand is ridiculous. They don’t. Period.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
I agree 🙌🏻
@poumpea9371
@poumpea9371 10 ай бұрын
Corrupt!
@RubyVideoFan
@RubyVideoFan 10 ай бұрын
Is Mr Doug going to get a speech writer for making a speech on how to apologize? Maybe he could borrow somebody from PM Trudeau?
@noraelliott7304
@noraelliott7304 10 ай бұрын
No enough. Need to return the land. And protect the Greenbelt. Shameful.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
What’s shameful is having people live in tents.
@GV-su9ov
@GV-su9ov 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion it is not a matter of building additional houses but making them affordable. You can build millions of houses but who can afford them? It won't help if the prices are beyond reach of the average folks. It only lines the pockets of the developers.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
You can not set prices, it depends on supply and demand. Prices shot up after that greenbelt went in because it created artificial land scarcity. Please take an economics class.
@CosmicCreationsDIY
@CosmicCreationsDIY 10 ай бұрын
New development shouldnt be allowed to destroy exsisting farmland and forests but i dont agree with giving exsisting farmland away to try and make people who have never even been out side feel good about there woke selves
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
You mean the farmland that will not exist because farmers cannot afford to feed themselves thanks to all the extra taxation and regulations they put on them. Most of our feed is not even from Canada. WAKE UP!
@CosmicCreationsDIY
@CosmicCreationsDIY Ай бұрын
@@No_name860 agreed .
@marcinhibner9507
@marcinhibner9507 10 ай бұрын
It's time to 3d print and erect a new part of Toronto City up front beetween Island and Toronto shores and the Airport if no land to be found))) build into water or on top like it's year 2023. 🎉Canada
@jeffspicolli593
@jeffspicolli593 10 ай бұрын
The Liberal Lite Ford needs to resign and be replaced by a real Conservative Premier with integrity.
@robertbouchard6719
@robertbouchard6719 10 ай бұрын
Bye Bye Ford....
@clairemercer3099
@clairemercer3099 9 ай бұрын
There is plenty of housing available. It's just affordable and this greenbelt housing won't provide it.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Affordable? Where do you live? Also you must know a lot about economics to make a comment like that😂
@1013VS
@1013VS 10 ай бұрын
Its funny how quick people are to judge the situation and just blame Premier Doug for this. Keep on peeling the onion and you'll realize how deep and complicated this housing situation is especially up to the federal level.
@damontsekos9406
@damontsekos9406 10 ай бұрын
Ontarians were given a second Golden Opportunity to get rid of him, but Steven Del Duca wasn't good enough for them, therefore they got what they voted for Twice! "The Government you elect is the Government you deserve"...Thomas Jefferson
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Would much rather Ford, then that creepy little alien Del Duca or ANY liberal/NDP leader. Everything they touch turns to 💩
@RS-qo1rb
@RS-qo1rb 10 ай бұрын
Don’t care we have enough land build housing. On green belt or any where. Build build build. 🙏🏻
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
I agree 💯 I’m old enough to know that when they put that greenbelt in years ago, home prices doubled because it created artificial land scarcity. Some people in these comments are completely clueless. That’s what happened in my area anyway North West of Brampton. I mean it made my property value sky rocket so I really shouldn’t complain, but I worry about my kids and grandkids never owning anything because of how much home prices have gone up. I guess I’m not as selfish as some of the other people in these comments.
@newtonbrook
@newtonbrook 10 ай бұрын
Most of us live in a "greenbelt" . We do not want anyone else to live in a greenbelt. It's all about keeping the price of housing high. Lower supply equals higher prices. A win for the ones who own houses.
@ryuuguu01
@ryuuguu01 10 ай бұрын
They live on farms in the Greenbelt. Their land is valued at $4000/acre. If stays as greenbelt the land value will NOT increase. It is only the land that developers got taken out that is worth $500,000/acre. I want cheaper housing too. The way to do that is to build on land that is closer to service as the auditor's report said.
@mrmelmba
@mrmelmba 10 ай бұрын
Housing prices and rents cannot come down without a surplus. Tens of thousands of units are constructed each year. More than a million are required. A variety of spurious pretexts are employed in order to justify placing a halt on the further use of land, deliberately keeping housing in short supply. Those that come out in protest are the unwitting victims of a _con job_ that falsely believing will secure their future ensures their demise. Canada has 895,000,000 acres of forest that is a fraction of its total territory. None may be spared for housing. Fifteen square miles allocated to housing that in a relative sense is the equivalent of a molecule in a football field would eliminate the shortfall and bring housing prices back to a normal level. Citizens of a democracy will not allow that to happen. A home used to be a place to live in and traded in a free market like that for cars (until it was turned into a financial instrument in a monopoly) and persons at each income level could afford to buy one as homeowners whose income increased moved on to newer, more expensive homes leaving their old homes to be purchased by new entrants. (You can purchase a three-bedroom home in Detroit for $15,000). Before persons are admitted to public office, whether elected or employed at any level, they should be placed under oath and required to swear to the truth of their response to these questions: _Is your ulterior motive in becoming a public servant to place a halt on the use of the land resource? That was not promised to Canadians? That will cause home prices to skyrocket and shunt the lifetime earnings of citizens exacted through rent directly into the pockets of the chosen few? Unjustly enriching them and leaving residents impoverished and homeless?_
@civilengineer3349
@civilengineer3349 10 ай бұрын
Build more towers, less suburban sprawl
@mrmelmba
@mrmelmba 10 ай бұрын
@@civilengineer3349 Building _upwards_ while halting expansion _outwards_ causes home prices and rents to skyrocket, shunting the lifetime earnings of residents squarely into the pockets of the chosen few. Those most affected cheer each time another tract of land is "protected" tightening the snare on their own demise. A quarter million homeless in Canada with 1000 deaths each month. A major issue in this country is the vast expanse between cities, but no land may be spared for housing. Organized protest in an effort to save a grove of trees meets each attempted use of land, yet 895,000,000 acres of forest extend all the way from the West Coast to the East Coast. This artificially created land shortage serves the purpose of financial institutions, but costs consumers from five to above twenty times the normal price of a home. For each $100,000 of market price, if land is $20,000 and the building is $80,000 lenders will not advance funds beyond the value of the indestructible portion, which is the land, itself. A deliberately restricted supply caused prices to skyrocket with the cost of the building and the cost of land exchanging places in the equation. Now, for each $100,000 spent on a home the building accounts for $20,000 of the purchase price and land makes up the remainder, which is $80,000. Banks lend an amount that matches the indestructible portion of the acquisition, which is land. In an ironical twist this arrangement enables buyers to finance their purchase by paying several times the normal cost of a home. Canada produces cereal crops and livestock that are its staples, which are grown some distance from cities. We have highways and railways to haul in these products. This country also produces some fruit and vegetables during a relatively short growing season. The reality is that 95% of the food that we consume arrives from or through the USA. Major retailers are not going to snub reliable suppliers in order to acquire local produce for a few weeks each year. That has not kept land from being declared "agricultural" in an effort to prevent its use for housing and that has inspired movements to place a halt on the use of _all_ land. In order to save land for agriculture, forest land should be made available on which to construct homes. Legislation and regulations have severely restricted the home building and home improvement industries, the two industries for which we are admirably suited with our abundance of land, lumber, stone, minerals and other material. We have skyrocketing property prices preventing people from becoming established and a growing gulf between property owners and the remainder that cannot be bridged with any amount of effort. Housing has been turned into an unregulated financial paper market, with public officials that personally benefit at the expense of citizens, setting conditions to constrain supply that results in monopoly prices, with rent at maximum levels and home ownership beyond reach. *Footnotes:* ¹ A result of this cunning _sleight of hand_ is that purchasers make a down payment of $200,000 and finance the remaining $800,000 for a home that should only cost $200,000 to begin with if it were not for a deliberately restricted supply that caused prices to escalate to absurd levels. ² Cities were built on fertile flood plains at the confluence of rivers. Halting use of land beyond these areas that were developed a century earlier does nothing to enhance agricultural production, while astronomical price levels make this land unfeasible for growing crops. ³ Average price of a home in Vancouver in 1969 was $23,939. In Winnipeg $13,588. That equals $23,939/$7284 = 3.3 years salary in Vancouver of a new degree holder or $13,588/$7284 = 1.9 years salary in Winnipeg. ¹³ Civic governments reap a bonanza from inflated property assessments.
@worstknightmayor4439
@worstknightmayor4439 10 ай бұрын
Land and wildlife is necessary!!!not over population.
@debwoodhall27
@debwoodhall27 10 ай бұрын
Do you really think that the mega mansions that will be built on green belt land will do anything to decrease the housing crisis for average Canadians? Give your head a shake this is just a way to make the wealthy wealthier. We are not talkinf about forest, we are talking about prime farmland. These houses will do nothing to decrease homelessness in the province. You are a vicitm of a con job if you think otherwise. The only object of this scandal was to make Doug Ford, and his developer friends wealthier.
@josephsmith594
@josephsmith594 10 ай бұрын
The AG report said that land was available to build 1.5 million homes without the Greenbelt getting touched. So I call baloney on your red herring. Build the 1.5 million homes, then if you need Greenbelt land to build more, let’s talk about that then. This has nothing to do with building homes, it’s classic corruption.
@samg8012
@samg8012 10 ай бұрын
OK whatever. Can we just move on to important stuff now, like building fng houses? So much time and energy going on and on and on and on and on and on about this, meanwhile no hi es are getting built.
@josephsmith594
@josephsmith594 10 ай бұрын
Sure we can. Charge the corrupt provincial government officials, restore all the Greenbelt land to its previous state, investigate and remove Doug Ford for graft, and go build some houses. Just because we need houses doesn’t mean the rule of law gets thrown out the window for illegal acts of greed and profit.
@hippybop8451
@hippybop8451 10 ай бұрын
My thought exactly. I understand the importance of nature and farmland, but all this debate about land use affects home prices. With the prices of homes rn, I can kiss my dream of owning a home goodbye.
@debwoodhall27
@debwoodhall27 10 ай бұрын
How about building houses people can afford. The houses being built on the green belt will not be anywhere near affordable for average Canadians. These will be million dollar homes for the wealthy. While we are at it what about building affordable housing that will help get the homeless off of our streets?
@debwoodhall27
@debwoodhall27 10 ай бұрын
@@hippybop8451 Even IF all these homes where built there would be no positive effect on prices, since these will all be homes only the wealthy could afford.
@hippybop8451
@hippybop8451 10 ай бұрын
@@debwoodhall27 I agree with you. For myself, If I were to be buying a first home, it would be something smaller and more "affordable" nothing like a Mcmansion. Id like to see more incentives for developers to make more reasonable homes almost like what we've seen being built in the 60s
@06rtm
@06rtm 10 ай бұрын
The scandal is that he is trying to solve Canadas biggest problem? Who is outraged by this exactly?
@debwoodhall27
@debwoodhall27 10 ай бұрын
He is not trying to solve the housing crisis not by any stretch of the imagination. He is only trying to make himself and his developer buddies wealthier. Everyone should be outraged by this.
@newtonbrook
@newtonbrook 10 ай бұрын
Those who already live in the greenbelt and want their properties to increase even higher.
@jmitchell3127
@jmitchell3127 10 ай бұрын
Using protected, unserviced land that is nowhere near transit, shopping, or any necessary amenities that will put billions in the pockets of a few developers is not the way to solve the problem, it’s a smokescreen. Of all the land “opened up” in the Hamilton region, only one parcel could conceivably have homes started before 2026…just because god…I mean Ford says to do something doesn’t mean it is possible. This entire scam puts the onus on everyone else and leaves the provincial government “blameless” when the reality that their promises made without consulting municipalities comes crashing down.
@ryuuguu01
@ryuuguu01 10 ай бұрын
@@newtonbrook That does not make sense. If they wanted their property values to go up they would development in the greenbelt. Now their land is worth $4000/acre if there is development the land value increases up to around $500,000/acre.
@06rtm
@06rtm 10 ай бұрын
@@debwoodhall27 Do you own a home?
@samskinner8765
@samskinner8765 10 ай бұрын
your turn doug. just could not keep your hands clean, eh.
@lordcommandersnow1625
@lordcommandersnow1625 10 ай бұрын
Dont touch the green belt
@shawnb8658
@shawnb8658 10 ай бұрын
H @ N G Our politicians!
@thomashicks4931
@thomashicks4931 8 ай бұрын
Funny rcmp can investigate this but not any number of justin trudeaus ethics violations or why he left his teaching job so abruptly.
@No_name860
@No_name860 Ай бұрын
Yeah exactly, you know why. This socialist crap has been in the works for years. They want to keep the middle class poorer, it makes them RICHER!
@mhow7024
@mhow7024 10 ай бұрын
no one has lost trust on Ford.
@cliffm8112
@cliffm8112 10 ай бұрын
Who will you trust. Liberals, ndp or green party. Knowing Ontarions they will go back liberal to be screwed over
@oldpossum57
@oldpossum57 10 ай бұрын
No one trusted Fat Doug to begin with.
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